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Q: Hello.
I have a question about flagpoles and flagpole
history. I hope you can help. I had heard
that the truck of the flagpole flying the American flag
is supposed to contain several items. Can you tell
me what these items are or where where I might find the
information? Thank you very much. ChristopherHi
Christopher,
I have installed many flagpoles. The truck
attachment to commercial flagpoles is like the cap on a
pipe. The flagpoles is a long metal, usually
aluminum today, tube, hollow on the inside. The
truck is a cap the covers the top of the pole and keeps
the weather, and rain, out. It also serves to hold
the pulley through which the rope halyard runs to raise
and lower the flags.
The third purpose is to hold the finial, or ornament at
the top of the pole. Therefore the truck usually
has a hole tapped in the center into which a bolt can be
screwed. The most common finial is a gold ball
which allows the flag to easily slide off if the flag flies on top of it. Also used are eagles in the US.
Other countries use other finials, but the ball is still
most common. The truck is held in place by screws
tightened against the pole.
Hope this helps you. Lee L. Herold
AND....
From the Flags of the World web site FAQ page
#3 <http://fotw.digibel.be/flags/faq3.html#usa>:
What is in the "ball cap" on top of a flagpole
flying the U.S. flag?
Nothing. There is a persistent rumor left
over from the Cold War that the "ball"-type
finials atop poles flying U.S. flags contain a razor or
similar instrument, so that the U.S. flag may be
destroyed in the event of a successful enemy attack to
prevent its capture by the enemy. No evidence for
this has ever been found. It's just a legend.
To which I add: At West Point, plebes who are
"know-it-alls" are usually asked this question
repeatedly until they break and beg for the answer, and
this version is a little different than the above.
They are told it contains a match, a bullet and a
grain of rice in case of a successful enemy attack.
The rice will sustain the soldier to do what needs to be
done; the match is used to destroy the flag so it will
not be captured; the bullet is used for the same purpose
so the soldier will not be captured.
Dave Martucci
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Q: Dear Friend,
Thanks for trying to help with this. I write a
question and answer column for a newspaper in Manchester,
NH. This reader has me stumped. Here is the
question: "A neighbor of mine has come across an
American flag that has gold stars. This has been
stored away for a number of years. Can you find out
just what the gold stars mean?"
Sorry she didn't say how many gold stars there were or
give me any more information. Can you help?
Mary AnnA: Dear Mary Ann,
Thanks for your question. I am not sure either, and
the number of stars could make a difference. The
actual arrangement of the stars was not established until
1912 with the 48 star flag. Before that any
arrangement was available, even though most were made in
a similar pattern. Therefore, there were variations
in both the way the stars were arranged and on occasion
the color. The number of stars would help determine
the year, and that would give us a clue as to why the
stars may have been made gold.
There was also the Gold Star home window flag, the gold
star meant a son or daughter who died in the service of
the country, a blue star for a child serving. This
had a red border, not stripes.
In addition, there are decorative flags. Some are
parsed US flags, that is they have a few stars &
stripes, meant to represent, not "be" the US
flag. They are for decoration when the full US flag
is not desired. Many companies make these for the
holidays for homes that use decorative seasonal flags.
I have forwarded you request to Nick Artimovich, who I
think would have more information on your case than I.
Again, thanks for contacting me and good luck on your
column. You must learn a lot. Lee
L. Herold
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Q: Hi! I enjoyed your
web site! I was wondering if you would be able to offer
some assistance to my son, Ryan. He has a homework
question, and we have been unable to find the answer in
our searching this weekend. The question is: Why do most
countries use the color red in their flags -- what does
red symbolize? Do you happen to know the answer to this??
Thank you in advance for your time!
Hello (Dad) and son Ryan,
Without a doubt red is one of the most popular colors on
flags (white is another). Fact is, each country defines
the meaning of the colors, and these meanings can be very
different from place to place. Try looking on the Flags
of the World web site for specific meanings in specific
flags. http://www.digibel.be/flags/
. Dave Martucci |
Q: Can you verify a
pre-revolutionary flag that was raised on Taunton Green
in Taunton, Mass., circa 1773-1775? Thank you for
any info. you can give.
A: Here's what we know for sure.
Several publications have quoted "The Boston Evening
Post," Monday, October 24, 1774 (although there are
some slight differences in the quotes). According
to The FLAG BULLETIN Vol. II, No. 2 (Winter 1962-63),
Page 22 the Archives of the Boston Athenaeum has a copy.
The quote according to "Standards and Colors
of the American Revolution" by Edward Richardson is
"We have just received the following intelligence
from Taunton -- that on Friday last [Oct 21, 1774] a
liberty pole 112 feet long was raised there on which a
vane, and a Union flag flying with the words Liberty and
Union thereon."
The FLAG BULLETIN article by Ruth Howland (reprinted by
permission from the July 1962 issue of "Yankee"
magazine) gives the quote as "We have just received
the following from Taunton that on Friday last a liberty
pole and a Union flag were raised there, on which is a Tory and a Union flag flying with the words Liberty and
Union thereon."
My notes indicate Peleg Harrison's book on the US Flag
stated it was "a Union flag flying with the word
Liberty and Union thereon."
This suggests a very different design than the previous
quotes, although it is very possible I copied it wrong (I
don't own the book).
I have always meant to drop by the Athenaeum and see for
myself just how the quote is worded. Dave
Martucci
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| Q: Could you please
tell me this information: How many holes were put in the
American Flag - Old Glory at the Battle at time the Star
Spangled Banner was written. A:
Greetings:
It has been some time since I received this message but
thought I'd put in my two cent's worth.
We really don't know much of the history of the Star
Spangled Banner between 1814 and when it was photographed
for George Preble's pamphlet "Three Historic Flags
and Three September Victories." This photo is
reproduced at the Smithsonian's web site: http://www.si.edu/nmah/objects/krtssb/ssbh/ssbh.htm
It was taken at the Charlestown Navy Yard in Boston in
the 1870's. You can see that the large hole
encompassing one of the stars was missing, as was much of
the flags fly end. Legend says that Lincoln was
given the star, and that Armistead gave away pieces of
the flag to settle gambling debts.
Armistead was given the flag upon leaving Ft.
McHenry. The Smithsonian site tells who had the
flag from that time on. See
http://www.si.edu/nmah/objects/krtssb/ssbh/html/3a.htm. It
lists who owned it and a few of the places it was
displayed. What damage was done during the war and what
happened subsequently is hard to tell...
Hope this helps. Was any of this info new, or contrary to
what you had already received? Nick
Artimovich
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Q: I just wanted to
know what the color red meant on the Italian flag? I am a
10 year old 5th grade student doing a family history
project about Italy. Thank you.
Michael
A: Hi Michael,
Unfortunately, I can't specifically tell you what the red
stands for, if it does have special meaning. Maybe
another NAVA member knows. However, I can tell you
a short history of how it came to on the flag.
From "Flags Across the World and Through the
Ages" by Dr. Whitney Smith pg 144-145. As
Italians strove for a republic against the monarchy,
symbols of 3 colors became popular, beginning in 1789,
due to the influence of the French Revolution.
The Urban Militia of Milan had green & white
uniforms. When Napoleon invaded Lombardy in 1796
this militia became the republic National Guard, and
added crimson (red) to their uniforms. On the 9th
of October 1796 each cohort (a unit of the military)
received a standard or flag of 3 colors, green, white,
red - which may have been the basis of the national
Italian flag.
In the new Cisalpine Republic formed under Napoleons occupation, the Italian Legion wore cockades on their
hats of green, white & red. On 7 Jan 1797 a tricolor
flag was adopted for this republic, the first authentic Italian national flag.
I hope this helps you some. Lee L. Herold
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Q: SORRY TO BOTHER YOU,
BUT I'M LOOKING FOR A PICTURE OF A PENOBSCOT INDIAN
TRIBAL FLAG FROM BANGOR/OLD TOWN MAINE. I HAD ONE,
BUT LOST IT DURING A MOVE. IF YOU COULD HELP ME I
WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANKS
A: The Penobscot actually have two
flags, the one of the tribal government is white with the
tribal seal in black (see image at left). According
to the Vexillon winning "Flags of the Native Peoples
of the United States" by Don Healy (published in
NAVA's RAVEN 3-4, which is *still available*): "In
the center of the seal is a Penobscot warrior, possibly
Sockalexis, in profile, surrounded by an ornate border
that resembles three tombstones, each forming a
cross. On the arm of each cross is the name of a
particular virtue -- 'PURITY', 'FAITH', and 'VALOR' --
the three comprising the tribal motto. In a ring
around the bust is the name of the tribe in English and
in Penobscot 'PENOBSCOT NATION' and 'BUR-NUR-WURB-SKEK'.
Behind the warrior is a pine forest."
"The three crosses symbolize the Holy Trinity
... Each cross also carries a year: under 'PURITY' is
'1605', the year English Captain Weymouth kidnapped five
Penobscots and took them to England; under 'FAITH' is
'1687', the year the first Catholic mission was
established on Indian Island; under 'VALOR' is '1612',
the year of the war with the Eastern Abenaki. At
the base of each of the three crosses, outside the
circle, are tree branches representing tribal
growth."
"Two dates appear in a ring surrounding Sockalexis'
portrait. At the top is '1669', commemorating the
war with the Iroquois, at the bottom is '1749', marking
the treaty of peace with Massachusetts that ended King
George's War. The twelve flint fire starters in the
ring symbolize the unity of the tribe. The entire
seal has a serrated edge, a whole circle to denote the
sun."
"In addition to the tribal government flag, the
Penobscot people have a 'tribal flag' which hangs in the
Tribal Council Chambers, and has been described as
multi-colored, bearing a wikiyup and other symbols."
Dave Martucci |
Q: Hi,
There are two stores here in Houston that hang the US and
Texas flag from the rafters in the store (Sam's on 610 and
Home Depot on 610 @ 59) They can be seen from both
sides and are not against a wall. Something does
not seem right about them. Assuming they were meant
to be viewed from the side which would allow the US
flag's blue to be in the upper left corner, which side of
the US flag should the Texas flag be on and which side
should the red (bottom) be on. Also, what is the
correct order of the Six Flags of Texas. Info on
how to hang the US flag is easy to come by but not so
easy for the Texas flag. The library and two Eagle
Scouts could not answer my ?'s. Thanks, ChrisA: Dear Chris,
I'll try to answer your question by quoting the Texas
Flag Code (you can view the full text at
http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/lobby/ref/6139c.htm).
It sounds like the flags are hanging vertically.
The US flag would be to its own right (the position
of honor), which would correspond to the observer's left.
The Texas flag would, therefore, be to the
observer's right of the U.S. flag:
(f) The state flag, when carried in a procession with
another flag or flags except the United States flag,
should be either on the marching right, that is, the
state flag's right, or, if there is a line of other
flags, in front of the center of that line. When
the state flag is carried in a procession in which the
United States flag is carried, the United States flag
should be on the marching right, that is, the United
States flag's right, and the state flag should be on the
United States flag's left.
Here's the explanation of how to orient the state flag
when it is displayed vertically:
(o) When the state flag is displayed horizontally, the
white stripe should be uppermost and to the state flag's
left, that is, to the observer's right. When
displayed in a window, the state flag should be displayed
in the same way, with the blue stripe to the left of an
observer who is outside the window. When the state
flag is displayed vertically, the blue stripe should be
uppermost and the white stripe should be to the state
flag's right, that is, to the observer's left.
The question of what order to display the "Six Flags
of Texas" is a little complicated. The U.S.
flag, of course, goes to its own right, that is, the
observer's left. The Texas Flag Code states that
the Texas flag should come next, but this does violate
international protocol, which would give precedence to
the flags of other countries. It isn't a problem
for the Spanish and French flags as the current national
flags of those two countries aren't used in the "Six
Flags" display. It is a problem if the current
Mexican flag is used, which uses a side view of the
eagle. The historical Mexican flag from the 1820s
to 1836 has a front view of the eagle; unfortunately,
it's hard to purchase that flag. If a historical
flag is used for Mexico, I believe the logical sequence
(in chronological order for the last four flags) would be
(from the observer's left to right) United States
(current 50-star version), State of Texas, Kingdom of
Spain (horizontal stripes of red, gold, and red defaced
with a castle-and-lion badge surmounted with a crown),
Kingdom of France (numerous gold fleur-de-lis on a white
field), United Mexican States (1820s version), and the
Confederate States of America (I recommend the Stars and
Bars, which has three horizontal stripes (red-white-red)
and a blue union with stars in a circle).
Hope this helps.
Charles A Spain
P.S. I'm an Eagle Scout, so at least one of us can answer
your question!
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Q: Hello ~
My name is Elizabeth, and I'm a senior in high school.
I got your e-mail address from the NAVA web site,
and though not sure you're the most appropriate person to
direct my question to, I figure you can direct me
elsewhere if that is the case. I bought a baseball
cap that features a picture of a flag on the front, and
I'm trying to find out what the flag means.
Suggestions have so far included the flag of an old
rail road or a hurricane warning flag, but I can't find
confirmation of either. Here's what it looks like.... A
red rectangle, with a black rectangle in the
center. The black rectangle is outlined in white. (The red one is outlined in
black, but I don't know if that's part of the flag or
just the design.) Any help is greatly
appreciated! Thank you very much!A:
Hi Elizabeth,
Your instincts are pretty good with flags. I
strongly suspect the flag is the hurricane warning flag,
a red square, with a black square centered in it.
The gale flag is a red pennant (triangle shaped)
flag. The hurricane flags are rated by wind speed,
and 2 indicate a stronger hurricane. Hope this
helps. Lee L. Herold
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| Q: Hi, we need the flag
symbolism of Algeria. A: According to
"Flags Across the World and Through the Ages"
by Dr. Whitney Smith, and "Flags of the World"
by Dr. Wm Crampton, the flag was first used in 1928 as
they sought independence, and in 1962 on independence the
flag was adopted, slightly altered. The green
represents is the traditional color of the Muslim faith,
the white represents purity. The horns of the
crescent are longer than usual representing good fortune
or happiness, and the crescent and star recall the period
of Ottoman rule during the 16th century. The
crescent and star are believed to the the symbol of the
city of Constantinople, conquered by the Muslims and this
symbol adopted. The red color represent liberty.
Lee L. Herold
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| Q: Do you have any
biographical information on Rebecca Young, one of the
early flag makers. Specifically, where and when was
she born, who was the Young to whom she was married and
where did they live? When were her children born?
Thanks for whatever you can provide. A: Not too much biographical info is
known about Rebecca Young.
Rebecca Young advertised as a flag maker in the
Philadelphia Newspapers during the Revolutionary War and
Theodore Gottlieb, who did considerable research on the
subject, states that she was paid "at least thirty
times" for making flags for the Quartermaster
Department of the Continental Army and the Pennsylvania
Navy. Actually, Gottlieb may have been mistaken
since a close examination of the receipts in the National
Archives shows many of the entries are duplicates.
By my count, she made five flags in 1781-82. In
receipts dated 1780, some of them are signed by William
Young; I don't know if this is a husband or a son.
After the War, in October 1784, she was paid for sewing
the Standard of the First United States Regiment
commanded by Lt. Colonel Josiah Harmar. After this,
there are no further records of her but her daughter and
granddaughter continued the tradition by making one of
America's most famous flags.
Mrs. Mary Young Pickersgill of Baltimore, a "maker
of ships banners and flags," assisted by her
daughter Mrs. Caroline Purdy, under contract to the
United States Government in 1813 manufactured the U.S.
Flag that has now become known as the "Star Spangled
Banner" and was used as the garrison flag of Fort
McHenry during the British siege of 1814.
Dave
Martucci
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| Q: I am constructing a
Japanese flag. I've seen that the overall
dimensions of the flag should be a 2:3 ratio, but is
there an official ratio between the central red circle to
the fly and hoist dimensions? Any clarifying
information would be appreciated. Thank you. Thanks
for your inquiry. I am uncertain if the recent readoption of the Japanese flag made any changes in its
traditional proportions, which are either 7:10 or 2:3 as
you stated. By tradition, I am referring to the
official designs that were adopted 27 January 1870 in
decree no. 57 of the Central Government of the Restoration
for government usages and the decree No. 651 dated 3
October 1870 for Japanese Naval flags. Although
strictly speaking, these decrees ceased to be official
after 1947, both were still followed by the Japanese
government and I would guess these are still the law
today. Nowadays, most flag manufacturers follow the
second decree even for usages on land.
The first decree set the overall proportions at 7:10 as I
have stated; the diameter of the red circle was 3/5 the
width of the hoist and it was centered on a point that is
49/100 of the distance of the fly from the hoist.
In other words, if the flag is 70 units by 100
units, the red ball is 42 units in diameter and the hoist
edge of it is set 28 units from the hoist while the fly
edge of it is set 30 units from the fly. From the
top and bottom of the red ball to the top and bottom of
the flag is 14 units respectively.
The second decree set the overall proportions at 2:3 and
the diameter of the red circle at 3/5 the width of the
hoist and it is centered on a point at the exact center
of the flag. In other words, if the flag is 70
units by 105 units, the red ball is 42 units in diameter
and the edges of it are set 31.5 units from the hoist and
the fly. From the top and bottom of the red ball to
the top and bottom of the flag is 14 units respectively.
Here is the example comparison in chart form:
| PROPORTION |
HOIST |
FLY |
RED BALL (diameter) |
HOIST TO BALL |
BALL TO FLY |
BALL TO TOP/BOT |
| 7:10 |
70 |
100 |
42 |
28 |
30 |
14 |
| 2:3 |
70 |
105 |
42 |
31.5 |
31.5 |
14 |
To be absolutely correct for land-based
usages, the first is your best bet. But most flags
in Japan follow the second set of proportions. Good Luck!
Dave Martucci
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| (Note: The following is
a two-part question....Ed) Q: 1- How and when did the white
flag become the symbol of peace and surrrender?
A: The FLAG BULLETIN, No. 155 (Nov-Dec 1993),"52
Vexillological Questions Posed to the FRC," pg. 252
states:
"A plain white flag has been used as a symbol of
peace ... and ... is also sometimes a flag of surrender,
but the first use of the white flag for this purpose is
not known to the Flag Research Center.
"That usage may have evolved from the white flag as
a symbol of truce, which supposedly dates back to 1095
[CE] when Pope Urban II proclaimed the 'Peace of God' to
be observed between belligerents on certain
holidays. On the other hand Jehan de Wawrin's
'Chronicle' refers to an incident when a Christian fleet
was at anchor in the Bosporus in 1444. A Turk on
shore displayed a white pennant which 'according to their
custom signified safety and a wish to parley.' This
suggests that the custom was not known to the Christians
from Western Europe at that time, but was adopted by them
later, based on this usage familiar to the Ottoman
Turks."
In a series of follow-ups to this statement, appearing in
FB # 161 and 172, the following is added:
"... on p. 22 of 'The National Flag of Japan' by N.
Matsunami (published by the author in 1928): the
'Chronicle of the Empress Jingo (201-269 CE) mentions
that the king of Silla had hoisted a white flag of
surrender." "... Matsunami's claim that
the king of Silla state in Korea flew a white flag of
surrender could not have occured before the middle of the
7th century CE and is at best based on a 15th century
source."
The FB also ran some extensive articles on the symbols
of Peace, including the color white, some time ago but
that material is too extensive to quote. If you are
interested I could copy it for you and mail it at cost.
Q: 2- When and why did
the signs for Red mean stop and Green mean Go.
This is an interesting question as it is exactly the
reverse in China, where green means STOP and red means
GO. Probably the color red signifying STOP
originated with the signal for danger (a plain red flag)
which dates at least to the early years of the 19th
century (railroads in the USA) and probably earlier.
Green was probably adopted as the opposite color.
BTW, the Chinese convention I cited began during the
Cultural Revolution of the mid- to late-1960s. Dave
Martucci
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Q: I have enjoyed your
flag sites on the internet. NAVA site suggests I
might ask you a question - I am writing a book about the
Bedford Flag. We claim it is the oldest entire flag
in the US. Is this right? I know of the
Moulton Flag, the Louisbourg Flag, and the fragments in
the Governer's Palace in New Mexico, but little detail.
Are these the oldest flags or are there more
lurking somewhere? Thanks for your help
A: It is believed that the Bedford Flag could be the
oldest extant flag in the United States. I say
"could be" because dating such items is not an
exact science. The fragments in New Mexico are
unknown to me, but the Pizarro Flag, which pre-dates the
Bedford Flag, is supposedly still extant in Mexico City,
Mexico. The Moulton Flag (a MAINE Regiment) dates
from 1745, as does the Louisbourg flag you mention.
Recently, a flag was found by a collector on Long Island,
NY that probably dates from the late 17th century (a New
England pattern militia flag of the 5th Regt.) but it is
still undergoing examination. Most vexillologists believe
(the book by the Friends of the Bedford Flag
notwithstanding) the Bedford Flag was made in England in
the mid-17th century, so it would appear to be the oldest
in the USA. However, if the argument in the Friends
book that the materials could date from the early 18th
century is accepted, then the NE 5th Regt. Militia flag
presently in NY would apparently be the oldest. Of
course, at any time new items could come to light to
change any or all of this.
Your safest bet is to say something like "The
Bedford Flag has been long believed to be the oldest flag
still extant in the USA ..." Hope this helps. Dave Martucci
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Q: Enjoyed your page.
I wonder if you could help me find the flags that
are flown to indicate wind conditions and storm
warnings. I really would appreciate it very much.
I've been to NOAA to encyclopedias to the sailingindex.com but no luck. I hope you can spare
a few minutes and clue me in.
A: Boy! Sometimes the easiest questions are the
hardest to answer! I spent some time tracking down this
info, but finally found it. This is one of those
things I think I know by heart but finding written
confirmation of it was not that obvious.
The old weather flags are no longer in official use,
although the Hurricane Warning and Small Craft Advisory
Warning signals are often seen on TV weather broadcasts.
Formerly (and I don't know the date when they were
discontinued, but I think it was in the 60s or 70s) a
series of two flags were hoisted to indicate a storm and
the direction it was approaching from: SW Winds, storm
flag [red square with a black square in the center], over
a white pennant; NW Winds, white pennant over the storm
flag; NE Winds, red pennant over the storm flag; SE
Winds, storm flag over a red pennant. A Hurricane
Warning was
indicated by two storm flags, one over the other and a
Small Craft Advisory was indicated by a red pennant.
In addition, before radio became widely used, there were
a series of weather forecasting flags used by the
National Weather Service and displayed at all light house
installations and Coast Guard Facilities. A square
white flag indicated fair weather, a square blue flag
indicated rain or snow, a square flag divided
horizontally into unequal stripes of 4:3* white over blue
indicated local rain or snow, a black equal triangle flag
indicated extreme change in temperature and a square
white flag with a black square in the center indicated a
cold wave. The September 1934 National Geographic
article on flags says these were falling out of use then.
Dave Martucci
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Q: Hopefully you can
point me in the right direction to have this question
answered. I am looking for a reference guide or
resource to locating the "official" colors of a
specific flag. This information is needed for the
design of a publication where an exact color match is
critical (i.e. Pantone, TOYO, Truematch, etc. color reference number). I am specifically looking for the
exact value/hue for the Red and Blue of the Cuban flag.
I would assume these colors are established
standards, but I have been unable to locate any resource
for this information. I would greatly appreciate
any assistance you could provide.
Color matching is not an exact science for flags, in
general. Although there are some flags that are
specified as to exact shades using Pantone or some such
system, most are not. A good story is that of
Sweden. About the turn of the century, actual
samples of the correct colors of the Swedish flag were
made and kept in the capitol for reference by flag
makers. The blue was somewhat dark and the yellow
very bright. Over the years, these samples faded so
that the Swedish flag by the 1980s (when the phenomena
was discovered) became a light blue and pale yellow
color.
Cuba does not specify exact colors. The Flags of
the World web site and email list uses a pallete of 16
basic "browser-safe" colors and these
constitute the vast majority of the colors used.
Most manufacturers have their own standard
hues. FIAV (International Federation of
Vexillological Assns.) recognizes approximate color
variations expressed by the use of a single letter with
the addition of "plus" or "minus"
signs for variations in hue. Thus, medium blue is
expressed B, light blue as B- and Navy Blue as B+.
There is more discussion of the use of colors on the
Flags of the World Web Site http://www.digibel.be/flags/
Hope this helps you out. Dave Martucci
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| Q: I found your name on
the NAVA web site and would like to take advantage of
your offer to answer questions. I am acquainted
with the Bedford Flag, which is painted on a fabric of
rich red damask. Is damask a very unusual material
to use for an English colonial flag? Did our tailor
pull a Scarlett O'Hara and pull down some curtains to
fashion the flag? Thanks for your consideration. A:
With respect to "Scarlet" it wouldn't surprise
me in the least. Yes, damask is an unusual material
for flag purposes, but in the Colonies flags were often
made of whatever material was at hand. For those
who may not be familiar with such things, damask is a
firm, glossy patterned fabric with a Jacquard weave.
The patterns are woven so that the
"front" side usually has satin face designs
which are reversed on the "back" side. In
two-color damask the colors reverse on either side.
Damask is similar to brocade but flatter and reversible;
it may be linen, cotton, rayon or silk, or a combination
of fibers. It is most commonly used for making
table linen, draperies and upholstery. Another type
of damask, called double damask, is woven with both
ground and pattern in eight-shaft satin weave. It
has a firm texture and is used for formal table linens.
In my experience, admittedly with mostly "Civil
War" flags, the most common materials used to make
flags were wool and Silk. There were, however, many
cotton and linen flags made, even though for a time
(before the cotton "gin") cotton was
considerably more expensive than wool. Nonetheless,
the exigencies of the times considered, a "Scarlet
O'Hara" is not out of the question. I hope
they removed the rod. Richard R. Gideon
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| Q: I got your address
off of the NAVA Research page and I have a question
regarding the proper protocol for burning the flag in a
cermony. I have seen this done once at a Boy Scouts
of America summer camp. The flag was old and riped
and was ready to be "retired". One thing
I do remember them saying was that the US military and
the Boy Scouts where the only 2 organization who could
"legally" burn the flag. If you have any
information on this I would appriciate the input. A:
In response to the question who can burn the American
flag. Welcome to the USA where if it is your flag
you may burn it... with a few cautions. Some cities
may have rules about burning trash, which would forbid
you from burning the flag as a means of disposal.
This may be why you think that only the military or
scouts can burn the flag, there may be provision in local
ordinances allowing for this exception to these
organizations. Nathan Bliss
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| Q: I'm trying to find
photos or accurate color drawings of the "1824"
flag (Alamo) AND the "Liberty or Death" flag
(Goliad). Any help would be greatly appreciated. A: Unfortunately, I know of no
photographs or "accurate" drawings because
there are not (to the best of my knowledge) any surviving
examples of the "1824" flag or the
"Liberty or Death" flag from Goliad.
In my opinion, it is highly unlikely that the
"1824" flag flew at the Alamo as this flag
represented the sentiments of those Texians like Stephen
F. Austin who wanted to remain part of Mexico, but as a
separate state (at that time, Texas was part of El Estado
de Coahuila y Tejas) in a federal system loyal to the
Mexican federal constitution of 1824. The 1824 flag
was actually adopted by the Provisional Government of
Texas on November 29, 1835 as an ensign for registered
civil vessels and vessels sailing under letters of marque
and reprisal. This flag disappeared from use after
the adoption of the 1836 national standard and the 1836
national flag for the naval service. The land use
of the 1824 flag, if any, is not documented.
The "Liberty or Death" flag from Goliad is
referred to as the Troutman flag. In November 1835,
Johanna Troutman made a lone star flag in Crawford
County, Georgia. This flag is said to have
consisted of white silk displaying a blue embroidered
lone star and the words "LIBERTY OR DEATH" on
one side and on the reverse the motto "UBI LIBERTAS
HABITAT, IBI NOSTRA PATRIA EST" ("where liberty
resides, there is our homeland"). Troutman
presented her flag to William Ward's Georgia Battalion,
which carried the flag to Texas and unfurled it at
Velasco on January 8, 1836, over the American Hotel.
The flag was later carried to Goliad, where James
W. Fannin raised it on March 8, 1836, to celebrate the
news of the Texas Declaration of Independence. The
Troutman flag was reportedly destroyed by the wind during
the Goliad Campaign of 1836 when it got caught in its
halyard. I hope this is of some help to you. Charles
Spain
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