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Q: Hi. I need this information for a school paper for my grandson.  I found a picture of the flag but he needs to know about the colors.  Do they have any meaning?  Thank you

A: Try searching the Flags of the World web site http://www.fotw.ca/ Dave Martucci
Q: I want to purchase a Borough of The Bronx flag (3x5).  I know that the borough has a flag, but I do not know where to go to make the purchase.  Are you able to help me? Thanks.

A: Contact NAVA's commercial members.  See . Dave Martucci

 

Questions & Answers
Hi Lee,
I know that NAVA guidelines indicate that there should not be words on a City Flag design, but should a City strongly desire to have the city and state names on the flag, is it appropriate to have the comma between the city and the state? I have seen it both ways but more commonly, it seems, there is no comma between the city and state.

Thank you,
Teri

 
Thanks for you note below and question. You are right, we generally recommend that the symbol of the city be so pronounced that words would not be needed. It makes the difference between a flag that sits in a corner and a flag that people like and want to use.
 
A flag is a visible symbol of the invisible bond in the city. That is, when the city as whole stands up and speaks, a flag expresses that unity and cohesion, something everyone agrees on.
 
No one can tell any city their flag is correct or not. If the people of the city like and use their flag, that is all that is required of a flag.
 
Therefore, either way on the comma is correct. In my opinion, I would leave out the comma for 2 reasons. First, it is simpler. Second, it does not add to the flag, and anything that does not add to the flag should not be on it.
 
Hope this helps you.
 
Herold Lee
 
(Note...the following is a dialog between president Dave Martucci and Mike, an Eagle Scout)

Q: Greetings,
I have a question regarding flag etiquette. The Flag Code indicates no part of the flag is to be used as apparel.


There is more; it is also inappropriate to use any part of the flag as a costume or athletic uniform, except for a flag patch or pin.

1) Does this mean it is improper to wear a shirt with an image of the flag printed on it?

No. A printed image, as long as there is nothing placed directly over the flag image itself, is not the same as using an actual flag to make up part of a garment.

2) What about clothing that doesn't have the flag itself, but red & white stripes and/or white stars on blue?  These are obviously elements of the flag.

True, but unless an actual US Flag is altered into a garment, I don't see any problem here. Abby Hoffman was acquitted because his shirt had in fact never been a flag or part of a flag. Don't forget the stars and stripes shirts Roy Rogers and Dale Evans always wore. The code clearly prohibits using a flag or any part of a flag as apparel, but does not mention images of flags or patterns that suggest the flag. The deciding factor seems to be if it never was an actual flag, then it's fair game.

I want to express my patriotism.  I also want to honor those that have defended the flag by displaying my patriotism properly.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks much!
God Bless America!
Mike 
Eagle Scout

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Dave Martucci

Q: DEAR JOHN,  
I HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EVENTS ON THE AURORA IN 1916. WHAT IS THE WORTH OF THE COMMUNIST FLAG THAT FLEW OVER THE AURORA IN LATTER DAY COMMUNIST RUSSIA?
 

RESPECTFULLY YOURS,  
CHUCK

A: Dear Chuck: 
Sorry for the delay, but I hadn't looked at my email in days and I was flooded, so I missed a few. Anyway, you pose an interesting question. First of all, we are assuming that the original "Communist" flag  that flew over the cruiser Aurora still exists. Secondly any flag that it worn in later days may have been replaced as the Soviet naval ensign went though several changes over the decades. Thirdly, we would have to determine when the highest award ensign was granted to the Aurora. According to materials that I have, there were three levels of naval ensign.
  1. The Ship's Colors. Your basic naval ensign or national flag for use by the navy.
  2. Guards.  The "Guards" award was given to a military or naval unit and carried throughout the life of the unit. For example, the 15th Infantry division distinguishes itself in battle. It is given the "Guards" designation. It is thereafter known as the "15th Guards Infantry". I don't know how this designation is used for individual vessels, but you would have a "2nd Guards Destroyer Squadron". A Guards ensign would have an additional orange and black ribbon printed onto the flag.
  3. Red Banner. The Highest Award. The Red star on the naval ensign is replaced by a more decorative red star badge. A unit is thereafter referred to as a "Red Banner" unit. An example of this would be the "Red Banner Northern Fleet".
  4. The Aurora was given the unique designation as a "Guards Red Banner" unit. The ensign had both the orange ribbon and the red star badge.
Unfortunately, I don't have that much material on the Aurora, so it would be hard for me to say if the "original" Communist flag even exists today. If it did, I'm sure that it would be priceless. Unless I am mistaken, the Aurora today wears the current Russian naval ensign.   

Sincerely, 
John Gamez

(..we received the following reply from NAVA member Zach Harden)

A: On page one, one person asked about the current "Aurora" flag, and it is the Russian Naval flag, with the awards the "Aurora" has received from the Soviet Union. They had a special ensign during the later days in the
Soviet Union. It was the Soviet Naval Flag, with the two awards the "Aurora" got from the Soviet government. The awards were placed near the big red star.  I can provide a picture to show what it looks like.  The ship is currently docked in Moscow, as a war memorial, and a standing monument of the former USSR.

Zach Harden

Q: Good day,

I am trying to identify a specific flag (I have tried the "flag detective" website with no success).

Here's a description of the flag:

It is a red St. George's Cross on a white background. Centred in the top left square (nearest the flagpole) is a French fleur de lis. In the lower left is a Scottish thistle. In the top right is a red rose (English symbol). In the lower right is an Irish shamrock.

This may be a current or historic flag of a former British colony or member of the British Commonwealth of Nations ... or it may be a regional flag of such a colony or Commonwealth nation. It has been donated to the British Pavilion at the Gathering of Nations festival here in Manitoba, Canada ... but the donor cannot identify it other than as a "British flag".

Any help you can provide would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Ian
Winnipeg, Manitoba, CANADA

(..we received the following reply from NAVA member Zach Harden)

A: The question on page one with a Canadian flag with the four symbols/flowers, that is the flag of Montreal, Quebec.

Zach Harden 

Q: Hi:
     I have an old 36 star US flag and I want to conserve it.  I read the article
(Conserving America's Civil War Flags..Ed) about how they conserve flags for museums, but there wasn't any mention of what kind of materials they used for it.  Can you help?
R. J.

A: Dear R.J.:
     As a matter of fact, I can help.  The leading supplier of conservation textiles is TALAS.  Mr. Arron Salik of TALAS gave me permission to pass along some information about commonly used conservation materials:

  • Crepeline
    A loosely woven, silk organdy imported from France, used as a backing support for fragile textiles. It is ideal for covering textiles in an exhibit as it becomes almost invisible.
     
  • Linen Canvas
    Custom hand loomed in Belgium, 100% linen thread, this material is suitable for relining large paintings as well as small and can also be used for contemporary painting. (Note: used by some for flag backing..RRG)
     
  • Pe-Cap
    Monofilament, polyester fabric noted for its high strength and dimensional stability. Most often used for relining and strip linings. These fabrics are highly translucent.
     
  • Polyester Screen Cloth (7-25S)
    A precision woven synthetic monofilament cloth suitable for supporting documents and textiles in water baths, and for reinforcing fragile documents. Suitable for building drying screens.  (Note: See "Conserving America's Civil War Flags" for a description of de-ionized water cleaning of flags..RRG)
     
  • Stabiltex 4 (Terelene / Tetex)
    These fabrics are imported from Switzerland and are used for reinforcing and backing fragile textiles: stronger and longer lasting than Crepeline. They have good resistance to ultraviolet radiation, decay, bacteria, acids and oxidizing agents, 100% polyester.  (Note: This is one of the most commonly used conservation fabrics..RRG)

     For more information you can contact TALAS at: 

TALAS
568 Broadway
New York, New York 10012
E-mail: info@talas-nyc.com
Phone:: 212-219-0770
Fax: 212-219-0735

     Please keep in mind that NAVA can not endorse TALAS nor supply prices; however, we are very grateful to Mr. Salik for providing this information.

Richard R. Gideon

Q: Dear Mr. Gideon:
     Perhaps you can help me.  I am trying to paint a flag like an old Civil War flag.  I tried painting a piece of scrap fabric just to see how it would come out, but the oil paint is still tacky after sitting around for a week.  How can I make it dry faster?  How did they do it back then?  Also, how did they paint the eagle.
Thanks,
Tom    

A: Dear Tom: 
     Except in some unusual situations, "Civil War" flags were not painted with oil paints.  In fact, when one considers that a Union Infantry Color or a Regimental could be produced in a day, it seems illogical that oil paints would be used.  As you have discovered, oil paint takes a long time to cure.  According to Fonda Thomsen of Textile Preservation  Associates, Sharpsburg Maryland, the paint of choice was resin paint.  This type of paint sets up quickly and does not take weeks to cure.  However, resin paint is hard to find.  You may want to consider a fine artist or fabric acrylic paint.
     With respect to painting the eagle in the Arms of the United States (I assume you are painting a regimental), painters used a stencil of the outline of the arms, then used a basecoat of a neutral gray paint.  A detail artist then did the rest.  Today flag artists that specialize in this sort of thing, such as Stephen Hill and Katherine Feuhrer Gideon, have their "tricks of the trade," but their approaches are similar.
Regards,
Richard R. Gideon

Q: Hello!
      I was admiring your flag website. I am a student starting at Harvard Business School and am researching the amount of US and other flag sales in the US annually (both real flags as well as flag images). Might you or any of your colleagues know any resources I might check out? 
Kind regards,
Michelle

A: Dear Michelle: 
     I do not know the answer to your question, but it is an interesting one. With your permission, I would like to forward it to the questions-and-answers page of www.nava.org, where one of the members of the North American Vexillological Association may know how to answer your question. 
Very truly yours, 
Charles Spain FIAV Secretary- General

(Mr. Spain is past-president of NAVA...Ed)

Q: Do you know or know where I can find out...what the history of the Diver Down flag is?
Thanks,
Chip
PADI Divemaster

A: Hi Chip
Sorry on 2 counts, one for the long delay in responding and second for not having the answer. I will forward this to others at NAVA and hope they can help.

Lee L. Herold

(...and we received this from NAVA member Phil Nelson...Ed)

According to http://www.underwater-society.org/ the Underwater Society of America is active in promoting the use of the red and white diver down flag.  And from http://www.southwestdiver.com/historyscuba.html

1956: Ted Nixon introduces a distinctive red and white "diver down" flag to warn boaters to stay clear or slow down to avoid injuring nearby divers.  (There is no record of who becomes the first boater to respond by cruising over at high speed "to see what those guys are up to.")

Phil Nelson

Q:Hello,  
     I found your email address in the design section of the nava.org website.  I was put in charge of designing a flag for my organization and was wondering what you could tell me about this design.  I thought I'd get a second opinion before I make this flag "official". 
Thanks!
Piett
 

A: Dear Piett:
I like your design. Simple, bold. The only suggestions that I can make are making more of a 2:3 proportion flag like in avatar 2 (at left), or placing the main design element off center in avatar 3. These are just suggestions.  There are other ways to enhance it, but as it stands it eye-catching and a lot of credit goes to the designer for keeping it simple. 
Sincerely, 

John Gamez

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